<div><div dir="auto">Dear Helen,</div><div dir="auto">So sorry to hear news of John. </div><div dir="auto">Concerted prayers again indeed. </div><div dir="auto">Fr Hugh</div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 5:16 pm, Helen Drummond <<a href="mailto:drummo07@bigpond.com">drummo07@bigpond.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">It also saves on petrol, childcare, time wasted in travel, etc.<div><br></div><div>No sooner does John get a bit better, than he takes another step back. </div><div>At 4am this morning they found his oxygen levels alarmingly and dangerously low.</div><div>Got him re-oxygenated and so specialists back to looking at what next.</div><div>Poor John can’t take a trick.</div><div>Keep the prayers up please.</div><div>H<br><div>
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<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 28 May 2020, at 4:53 PM, Rachel Ellyard <<a href="mailto:rachelellyard@vicbar.com.au" target="_blank">rachelellyard@vicbar.com.au</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;color:windowtext">Yes, Zoom works to maintain existing relationships very well, I think. It is less good at establishing relationships. Since we already know each other, it serves us well.</span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u> <u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></span></div><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">____________________________<u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Rachel Ellyard</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br>Barrister<u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></span></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Room 1106  Castan Chambers</span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span> </span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br>Tel: 9225 8324<br>Mobile: 0419 335 793<br>Clerk: Dever’s List<br><a href="mailto:rachelellyard@vicbar.com.au" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:blue" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(5,99,193)">rachelellyard@vicbar.com.au</span></a></span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u> <u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></span></div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm;font-family:Verdana;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223)"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:<span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Stpeters-parishcouncil <<a href="mailto:stpeters-parishcouncil-bounces@stpeters.org.au" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:blue" target="_blank">stpeters-parishcouncil-bounces@stpeters.org.au</a>> on behalf of Stephen Duckett <<a href="mailto:stephen.j.duckett@gmail.com" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:blue" target="_blank">stephen.j.duckett@gmail.com</a>><br><b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Date:<span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></b>Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 4:52 pm<br><b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">To:<span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></b>Peter Wild <<a href="mailto:peterwild1957@gmail.com" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:blue" target="_blank">peterwild1957@gmail.com</a>><br><b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Cc:<span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:stpeters-parishcouncil@stpeters.org.au" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:blue" target="_blank">stpeters-parishcouncil@stpeters.org.au</a>" <<a href="mailto:stpeters-parishcouncil@stpeters.org.au" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:blue" target="_blank">stpeters-parishcouncil@stpeters.org.au</a>><br><b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Subject:<span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></b>Re: Parish Council timely story - and some implications<u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></span></div></div><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u> <u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></div></div><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Thanks Pete, I think we should discuss what our practice going forward should be about Parish Council. I think one reason zoom works is that we had a number of f2f before we went zoom. We might alternate in the future.<u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></div></div></div><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u> <u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></div></div><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Stephen<u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></div></div><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u> <u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></div><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 3:43 pm, Peter Wild <<a href="mailto:peterwild1957@gmail.com" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:blue" target="_blank">peterwild1957@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></div></div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-width:1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;font-family:Verdana;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)" type="cite"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">Parish Councillors<u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u><u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u></span></div></div><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif"><u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u> <u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u></span></div></div><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">There are benefits from online for business operations generally, not just retail.<u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u><u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u></span></div></div><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif"><u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u> <u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u></span></div></div><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">During lockdown, I have found that 2D online generally entails significantly greater efficiency and amenity compared with 3D online. Both efficiency and amenity gains flow from being able to choose location, usually one's home, with reduced transport time and greater personal comfort.<u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u><u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u></span></div></div><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif"><u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u> <u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u></span></div></div><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">In practice, 2D also leads to more efficient operations. Our last Parish Council demonstrated this through a productive discussion on a range of detailed issues, finishing at 8.45 pm without leaving any business unfinished.<u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u><u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u></span></div></div><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif"><u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u> <u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u></span></div></div><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">Over the past couple of months, I have identified a handful of activities where I find 3D to be necessary:<u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u><u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u></span></div></div><div style="font-family:Verdana"><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom:0cm;font-family:Verdana"><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">Real presence Eucharist<u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u><u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">Life performance<u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u><u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">Table fellowship<u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u><u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">Very cosy tete-a-tetes<u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u><u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">Travel<u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u><u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">Physical contact<u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u><u style="font-family:Georgia,serif"></u></span></li></ul><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Georgia,serif">Parish Council monthly meetings are primarily business meetings and so are none of these and best undertaken in 2D.</span><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></div></div><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-family:Verdana"><u style="font-family:Verdana"></u> <u style="font-family:Verdana"></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-family:Verdana"><b style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="font-family:Georgia,serif">Pete-Barnabas Wild (04 5580 3584)</span></b><u style="font-family:Verdana"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana"></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-family:Verdana"><b style="font-family:Verdana"><i style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="font-family:Georgia,serif">Physically apart, Socially close</span></i></b><u style="font-family:Verdana"></u><u style="font-family:Verdana"></u></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u> <u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u> <u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></div><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="font-family:Verdana"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 2:13 PM Stephen Duckett <<a href="mailto:stephen.j.duckett@gmail.com" style="text-decoration:underline;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:blue" target="_blank">stephen.j.duckett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></div></div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;bo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